Caution: Free Thinking Ahead
Let me tell y'all what OUR problem is:
Some guy comes along and pokes us in the eye and convinces us the damage is because of the environment.
Because he expresses so much concern for our welfare, we think he is a nice guy (did not SEE him do it) ...
... but what we miss is that the SOB (I have many more descriptive words for him) steals our wallet while we are in pain.
We do not miss the wallet until much later (never connect the theft to Mr. "nice guy" of whom it is said: "He is a Christian man.") ...
... and we are left thinking that we really have to clean up our mess (who does not ?) to keep such damage from happening again.
Damn ! I'm blind and its my own fault !
_
Our lax border control, "flood" of illegals, minimum wage, lack of jobs, and more ...
... are not so much "problems" as symptoms.
Yes, " ... the issue goes much deeper, and takes many avenues " as Bruce pointed out ...
"Anyone who works for wages, is exploited in a capitalist framework"
- I seldom use the word exploited, but that might change ... : )
"Maybe, if the capitalists, dealt with other countries, with a fair and balanced trade relationship, there would be less need for people to feel (incorrectly), that the streets of america were "paved with gold"..."
- maybe.
"Not one of you mentioned the situation in Mexico (the prime object of your angst, I'm assuming), where globalization and the so-called "Free Trade" agreements (??), have rendered all of Mexico as the "cheap labor mecca, for US corporations."
- nor did I, though it was on my mind.
Bruce is also quite correct with: " ... the working masses in America have been cowed, into fear of "losing their jobs", wheras an empowered working class, would have the bosses shitting their pants, over losing their very lives."
- figuratively speaking; however those "working masses" are the engine of the American economy. Without labour, well ... how is our economy doing now that our labour is idle, eh ?
'Sides - what's a communist know about anything ?
Go ahead and tell me that ingenuity and innovation, or capital, or whatever is the "engine" of our economy - I will listen to your argument, and likely still say that no matter how much of any of those essential elements you bring to the work place, if you ain't got labour, you ain't got nuthin' - you be sitting there playin' with yer "enginuity" and tha's all folks.
So we ousted nuclear energy, and tha's a good thing, i'n't it ? Exported our demands that other countries not use nuclear energy, so all of us 'n them keep right on burning oil (which creates atmospheric emissions), but we SAVED our environment ... di'n't we ?
Oil was cheap though, so we used gasoline for everything - cleaning car parts, brushing teeth, getting rid of moles and gophers and prairie dogs and other critters - even burning down the neighbour's unsightly old shed.
Could have used free packs of matches from the Saturday Night Motel would've done as good, but not as much fun as splashing gasoline all over the place and then running like hell - hearing that "whump" ...
So what is this I hear about new deep oil discovery ? We are not much dependent on ME oil right now anyway (thanks, Canada) and with that we'd be free of ME (got to catch up on those details - just heard about it last night), so we could bring the troops home and watch Iraq reform itself on the big box screen (ya ain't buyin' a flat one on mi'mum wages) - maybe better than Islamic Simpsons ?
... put our troops into rotation along the borders (to keep 'em in shape - the troops) - that is, if we are gonna keep this ol' fuddy system of laws we keep ignorin' around these parts.
Without all the darn distractions then we might make better decisions at the market - put some of the crudcorps out of business for lack of customers, eh ? ... 'cause we be buyin' only the 'sponsible corps from here on, and if'n they ain't livin' up to our expectations, tough. Clean up yer own mess or get outta town. Maybe grow some new corps in the open spaces ... tell the crooks to go regulate themselves.
She thought she understood what the missionary position was, but then they sent her to Irian Jaya and she ain't never comin' back ...
Some guy comes along and pokes us in the eye and convinces us the damage is because of the environment.
Because he expresses so much concern for our welfare, we think he is a nice guy (did not SEE him do it) ...
... but what we miss is that the SOB (I have many more descriptive words for him) steals our wallet while we are in pain.
We do not miss the wallet until much later (never connect the theft to Mr. "nice guy" of whom it is said: "He is a Christian man.") ...
... and we are left thinking that we really have to clean up our mess (who does not ?) to keep such damage from happening again.
Damn ! I'm blind and its my own fault !
_
Our lax border control, "flood" of illegals, minimum wage, lack of jobs, and more ...
... are not so much "problems" as symptoms.
Yes, " ... the issue goes much deeper, and takes many avenues " as Bruce pointed out ...
"Anyone who works for wages, is exploited in a capitalist framework"
- I seldom use the word exploited, but that might change ... : )
"Maybe, if the capitalists, dealt with other countries, with a fair and balanced trade relationship, there would be less need for people to feel (incorrectly), that the streets of america were "paved with gold"..."
- maybe.
"Not one of you mentioned the situation in Mexico (the prime object of your angst, I'm assuming), where globalization and the so-called "Free Trade" agreements (??), have rendered all of Mexico as the "cheap labor mecca, for US corporations."
- nor did I, though it was on my mind.
Bruce is also quite correct with: " ... the working masses in America have been cowed, into fear of "losing their jobs", wheras an empowered working class, would have the bosses shitting their pants, over losing their very lives."
- figuratively speaking; however those "working masses" are the engine of the American economy. Without labour, well ... how is our economy doing now that our labour is idle, eh ?
'Sides - what's a communist know about anything ?
Go ahead and tell me that ingenuity and innovation, or capital, or whatever is the "engine" of our economy - I will listen to your argument, and likely still say that no matter how much of any of those essential elements you bring to the work place, if you ain't got labour, you ain't got nuthin' - you be sitting there playin' with yer "enginuity" and tha's all folks.
So we ousted nuclear energy, and tha's a good thing, i'n't it ? Exported our demands that other countries not use nuclear energy, so all of us 'n them keep right on burning oil (which creates atmospheric emissions), but we SAVED our environment ... di'n't we ?
Oil was cheap though, so we used gasoline for everything - cleaning car parts, brushing teeth, getting rid of moles and gophers and prairie dogs and other critters - even burning down the neighbour's unsightly old shed.
Could have used free packs of matches from the Saturday Night Motel would've done as good, but not as much fun as splashing gasoline all over the place and then running like hell - hearing that "whump" ...
So what is this I hear about new deep oil discovery ? We are not much dependent on ME oil right now anyway (thanks, Canada) and with that we'd be free of ME (got to catch up on those details - just heard about it last night), so we could bring the troops home and watch Iraq reform itself on the big box screen (ya ain't buyin' a flat one on mi'mum wages) - maybe better than Islamic Simpsons ?
... put our troops into rotation along the borders (to keep 'em in shape - the troops) - that is, if we are gonna keep this ol' fuddy system of laws we keep ignorin' around these parts.
Without all the darn distractions then we might make better decisions at the market - put some of the crudcorps out of business for lack of customers, eh ? ... 'cause we be buyin' only the 'sponsible corps from here on, and if'n they ain't livin' up to our expectations, tough. Clean up yer own mess or get outta town. Maybe grow some new corps in the open spaces ... tell the crooks to go regulate themselves.
She thought she understood what the missionary position was, but then they sent her to Irian Jaya and she ain't never comin' back ...
posted by JamesB at 11:11 PM
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