Killing with kindness : African Holocaust
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While we focus on the OVERT killing, which makes the "news" ...
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Killing with kindness
There's lot of expressed concern on the part of the US, the UN and WHO about AIDS in Africa.
Oddly, other much more serious diseases and environmental problems in Africa are being ignored.
The solution to the "AIDS problem" in Africa?
Lots of immuno-suppressive drugs and the replacing of breastfeeding with infant formula.
One researcher called the west's anti-AIDS program in Africa "diabolical." This video explains why.
Excerpt from a film made by Gary Null Productions.
- http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/277.html
- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5959613277992277447&hl=en
(16 min 4 sec - Feb 16, 2008)
Gary Null: There is a paradox. In America we are told that it's the fast track to gays and the intravenous drug users most susceptible to developing AIDS. In Africa, we're told it's the heterosexual that is most susceptible to developing AIDS. Why the contradiction? Well, we haven't looked carefully at the facts. We've been told numbers ranging from 5 million to 25 million Africans have HIV and that there is going to be an enormous amount of death, but when you actually go to Africa and you interview the physicians working there, you find that these presumptive diagnoses.
Charles Geshekter, PhD, Professor of African History at California State University, Chico: One of the things that is important to emphasize from the outset is that the definition of an AIDS case on the African continent differs decisively from what constitutes an AIDS case in, say, North America or Western Europe. A definition was arrived at as a result of a World Health Organization sponsor conference in October of 1985. What resulted is what's known as the Bangui Definition. The Bangui Definition of an AIDS case in Africa is based on four clinical symptoms. The clinical symptoms are: high fever, a persistent cough, loose stools for 30 days, and a ten percent loss of body weight over a two-month period. By that definition, a Western researcher like myself has had AIDS, but having gotten on a plane and flown back to California, I'm not considered, of course, an AIDS case. So I think it's important to keep that in mind whenever one looks at the data - the epidemiological data - about what exactly we're counting when it comes to AIDS in Africa.
Val Turner: Tuberculosis is, for all intents and purposes - I hate to say it's an /// tuberculosis. So what the HIV theory of AIDS is essentially asking us to accept is that sometime in the early 1980s, all the traditional causes of AIDS diseases - especially the infectious diseases, the dysenteries, the malarias, tuberculosis, which are, let's face it, a symptom of poverty, poor sanitation, lack of immunization, lack of medical services, hunger, starvation - were in fact replaced by HIV as a cause of all these diseases. I mean this is not a likely scenario.
Geshekter: Where there have been good research reports, it's clear that these HIV tests render a ludicrously high rate of false positives when those tests are done among populations that already suffer from other kinds of endemic diseases, parasitic infections and malnutrition. It was a study in the Journal of Infectious Diseases in 1994, for example, that made it quite clear that when they did these HIV tests on a population in Zaire, where there was widespread tuberculosis and leprosy, that the test results in 70 percent of the cases were false positive. If the test results are two or three percent false positive, a test is basically invalid - it's useless in terms of epidemiology. Now, what exactly they would be testing positive for is another question entirely; however, the numbers of AIDS cases are run together with projections of HIV sero-prevalence, or HIV infection. Usually these tests are conducted at a sexually transmitted disease clinic, maybe 100 or 200 people are tested. Where they're done at an ante-natal clinic where pregnant women are also tested, and from those samples, then projections are made about the rate of HIV and the rate of HIV/AIDS, which are run together customarily in Africa. Not only HIV/AIDS for an entire country, their projections can be made, as they were made at the AIDS conference in Geneva in 1998, projections can then be made for an entire continent of 650 million people.
Null: All over the world, entire nations are claiming that, "We also have an epidemic of AIDS." In India - especially in Bombay and Calcutta, in Thailand, in China, in Haiti, Guatemala, Brazil - therefore the idea of giving medications to everyone in a country - that doesn't seem reasonable. What would seem more reasonable is to give these people a type of infrastructure - a clean water, proper medicines, good healthy diet, and destressing them from the political conflicts and gross poverty so that they have some optimism in an adult immune system to look forward to a future. That is not being done.
Giraldo: What they are finding is that poly-specific antibodies that are normally in people in Asia and Africa because of the sorts of conditions there. So they have been exposed to many parasites, so they have to have a lot of poly-specific antibodies in their blood and that is what they are measuring in the ELISA and Western blot tests.
Geshekter: These are the classic symptoms of urban crowding, of poverty, of malnutrition, and of underdevelopment which in fact affect men and women fairly equally across the African continent, however the value of Africa and this notion about heterosexual epidemic of AIDS in Africa I think was extremely important by the middle of the 1980s because it helped to shift the focus, and helped to shift media interest, to suggest that while AIDS cases initially may have been confined to a small cohort of urban gay men in the West, that what was going on in Africa was a hint of things to come, in which in fact AIDS would put everyone at risk and it would in fact become a heterosexually spread disease.
Joan Shenton, Meditel Productions, U.K.: We have had the honor of meeting many African doctors who seriously were worried that the whole of the AIDS grants was wrong, and they were not afraid to speak out, but it was very dangerous for them to do so, and they were certainly not going to receive any funding because, in Uganda for example, there were six million dollars arriving that year for sex counselling and condom distribution, and for malaria control, there were sixty five thousand dollars, so that's the whole news.
Geshekter: Once the notion got started that stopping AIDS in Africa, which was assumed to be a heterosexually transmitted set of diseases, it could be prevented or stopped by Safe Sex. Then I think early on in the going there was a considerable interest on the part of missionary and church-related aid groups who argued very strongly that monogamy and abstinence and safe sex were ways in fact to prevent the spread of this particular kind of disease. To that extent I think the WHO and the UN has found it very expedient and very practical, along political and ideological lines, to argue that the causes of these diseases in Africa, and the cure for those diseases, lies in the hands of the people themselves, rather than looking at the harder nut - the tougher nut to crack - which would be the historical and the institutional forces that make it such in Africa that many people do not have an adequate diet, few people have adequate sanitation throughout their lives, and the vast majority of people in Africa are subject to a wide range of diseases - all of which predated that of AIDS. So I think that's been a major motivating factor. You have to also understand that there's a reason on the African side to buy into this particular equation. With the end of the Cold War, Africa has found itself unable to play the superpower game - playing the United States or the Western powers off of the Soviet bloc - and so many ministries of health and many governments in general accepted that little dogma, or not get the kind of aid or assistance that the U.S. government, the United Nations, the World Health Organization and so forth felt very strongly that this is what these African governments needed.
Null: In early 2000, South African President Mbeki decided to host an AIDS conference that would give time, not only to recognize orthodox spokespersons on AIDS, but to dissenters such as Dr. Peter Duesberg. The mass media fired off numerous attacks excoriating the irresponsibility of them allowing a forum in South Africa for the people who challenge the HIV equals AIDS mindset. Members of the AIDS establishment even went to the length of earnestly calling for the prosecution of AIDS dissidents.
Neville Hodgkinson, Journalist/Researcher: When HIV positive people - children as well as adults - were given effective treatment for the conditions that they actually presented, which were things like TB or gastrointestinal infections - when they were treated for these conditions, they actually had a better life expectancy than non-HIV positive people, within the cohort study. That was because within the circumstances of these studies, they had undertaken to give medical support to people who tested positive. It was a condition on which the people allowed themselves to be tested. So given that medical support, these people have better health records than those people who have not tested HIV positive.
Geshekter: I think this drumbeat of hysteria, of panic, of alarmism, and of fear, is doing immense psychological and medical damage to many people in Africa. People who would otherwise have gone to a clinic to get treated for something like diarrhea or a persistent cough or a fever are terrified of going to a clinic, because instead of being treated for those kinds of symptoms, they're afraid that they're going to get an AIDS diagnosis which they understand to be a death sentence. When people do get just such a diagnosis based on those clinical symptoms, and they return to their villages, they return to the villages to die. They basically give up all hope. They lose the will to live. They become an outcast. They are in a culture like many African cultures in Southern Africa, where extended family is everything, to be rejected by your extended family, to be forced to live in a secluded, segregated hut, away from the rest of the family, to have only meager amounts of food, meager amounts of water given to you, is to prepare the person for death, and what do you think happens? The person dies, and when the person dies, they will say, weepingly, with atrocious photographs in the newspaper, he or she was another victim of the AIDS epidemic, which is everywhere in Africa.
Christine Johnson: If someone came along and told them there is no AIDS - all there is are the same diseases that Africans have been dying of all along, then all of a sudden millions of dollars of funding would dry up, and African are colluding with this as well. Not very many of them, but there are a few African physicians who are able to collect a lot of this money. To heads of clinics or directors of public health services and people like that, there's an awful lot of money that can come their way as long as everybody thinks that Africa is besieged with a giant AIDS epidemic.
Geshekter: The pharmaceutical giants like Roche and Abbot and Glaxo Welcome and so forth have made offers to African governments, in which I think they expect to be subsidized for this ... they've made offers to African governments over the last couple of years - particularly to South Africa - to offer these so-called anti-retrovirals, which are a controversy in and of themselves, like AZT and the other nucleoside analog drugs, but to make those drugs available at what the pharmaceutical companies would consider a cut rate price. What they mean by cut rate would be that an individual's dose would cost about $200 a month. Well, the vast majority of people in Africa don't have a per capita income of $200 a year, so someone is going to have to subsidize these kinds of drugs, making them available in Africa, and I think that the pharmaceuticals will look toward state organizations or multi-lateral institutions.
Gannett: Here it is all these years later and it baffles me that not only is AZT still being used, but they are trying to expand its usage into the third world and into Africa, into poor countries, into poor communities in the United States, in spite of widespread evidence of its toxicity, widespread evidence that AZT in fact causes what we call AIDS.
Celia Farber, Journalist: They're taking the show to the third world and they're not only giving AZT to what would probably be millions of women in the third world, whether they're HIV positive or not, but they're also insisting that they stop breast feeding and start formula feeding - supposedly in an effort to stop transmission of HIV, which of course has never been isolated from breast milk - only antibodies, and even that only 25 percent or so - pretty much like semen data - but they are launching here what is bound to be a real disaster, a real serious loss of human life.
Geshekter: Mother's milk, which pediatricians around the world will tell you is the healthiest food that a newborn can have because of the immunological properties in mother's milk ... that women should in fact cease breast-feeding their young. Now this to me seems something more than just a crime. This is absolutely diabolical and evil, and I am at least encouraged that there's been some dissension and some skepticism for a change within the bowels of the WHO - an organization that's argued very strongly for breast-feeding - is now coming to grips with maybe one of the big contradictions in the whole HIV/AIDS construct.
Farber: I can't imagine that it'll work out any other way than that you're gonna see tens, maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe even more babies dying, and they'll probably say they died of AIDS no matter what happens, so nobody will even be held accountable this time. Oh, here's the one thing they're doing, so they can demonstrate that this has nothing to do with any particular formula company making money off of this situation, they're insisting ... the WHO or UNAIDS or whoever it is is insisting that the formula gets shipped in bottles without labels.
- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5959613277992277447&hl=en
See also:
"Deconstructing the Myth Of AIDS"
- http://www.ryze.com/posttopic.php?topicid=923888&confid=2950
.
While we focus on the OVERT killing, which makes the "news" ...
_______
Killing with kindness
There's lot of expressed concern on the part of the US, the UN and WHO about AIDS in Africa.
Oddly, other much more serious diseases and environmental problems in Africa are being ignored.
The solution to the "AIDS problem" in Africa?
Lots of immuno-suppressive drugs and the replacing of breastfeeding with infant formula.
One researcher called the west's anti-AIDS program in Africa "diabolical." This video explains why.
Excerpt from a film made by Gary Null Productions.
- http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/277.html
- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5959613277992277447&hl=en
(16 min 4 sec - Feb 16, 2008)
Gary Null: There is a paradox. In America we are told that it's the fast track to gays and the intravenous drug users most susceptible to developing AIDS. In Africa, we're told it's the heterosexual that is most susceptible to developing AIDS. Why the contradiction? Well, we haven't looked carefully at the facts. We've been told numbers ranging from 5 million to 25 million Africans have HIV and that there is going to be an enormous amount of death, but when you actually go to Africa and you interview the physicians working there, you find that these presumptive diagnoses.
Charles Geshekter, PhD, Professor of African History at California State University, Chico: One of the things that is important to emphasize from the outset is that the definition of an AIDS case on the African continent differs decisively from what constitutes an AIDS case in, say, North America or Western Europe. A definition was arrived at as a result of a World Health Organization sponsor conference in October of 1985. What resulted is what's known as the Bangui Definition. The Bangui Definition of an AIDS case in Africa is based on four clinical symptoms. The clinical symptoms are: high fever, a persistent cough, loose stools for 30 days, and a ten percent loss of body weight over a two-month period. By that definition, a Western researcher like myself has had AIDS, but having gotten on a plane and flown back to California, I'm not considered, of course, an AIDS case. So I think it's important to keep that in mind whenever one looks at the data - the epidemiological data - about what exactly we're counting when it comes to AIDS in Africa.
Val Turner: Tuberculosis is, for all intents and purposes - I hate to say it's an /// tuberculosis. So what the HIV theory of AIDS is essentially asking us to accept is that sometime in the early 1980s, all the traditional causes of AIDS diseases - especially the infectious diseases, the dysenteries, the malarias, tuberculosis, which are, let's face it, a symptom of poverty, poor sanitation, lack of immunization, lack of medical services, hunger, starvation - were in fact replaced by HIV as a cause of all these diseases. I mean this is not a likely scenario.
Geshekter: Where there have been good research reports, it's clear that these HIV tests render a ludicrously high rate of false positives when those tests are done among populations that already suffer from other kinds of endemic diseases, parasitic infections and malnutrition. It was a study in the Journal of Infectious Diseases in 1994, for example, that made it quite clear that when they did these HIV tests on a population in Zaire, where there was widespread tuberculosis and leprosy, that the test results in 70 percent of the cases were false positive. If the test results are two or three percent false positive, a test is basically invalid - it's useless in terms of epidemiology. Now, what exactly they would be testing positive for is another question entirely; however, the numbers of AIDS cases are run together with projections of HIV sero-prevalence, or HIV infection. Usually these tests are conducted at a sexually transmitted disease clinic, maybe 100 or 200 people are tested. Where they're done at an ante-natal clinic where pregnant women are also tested, and from those samples, then projections are made about the rate of HIV and the rate of HIV/AIDS, which are run together customarily in Africa. Not only HIV/AIDS for an entire country, their projections can be made, as they were made at the AIDS conference in Geneva in 1998, projections can then be made for an entire continent of 650 million people.
Null: All over the world, entire nations are claiming that, "We also have an epidemic of AIDS." In India - especially in Bombay and Calcutta, in Thailand, in China, in Haiti, Guatemala, Brazil - therefore the idea of giving medications to everyone in a country - that doesn't seem reasonable. What would seem more reasonable is to give these people a type of infrastructure - a clean water, proper medicines, good healthy diet, and destressing them from the political conflicts and gross poverty so that they have some optimism in an adult immune system to look forward to a future. That is not being done.
Giraldo: What they are finding is that poly-specific antibodies that are normally in people in Asia and Africa because of the sorts of conditions there. So they have been exposed to many parasites, so they have to have a lot of poly-specific antibodies in their blood and that is what they are measuring in the ELISA and Western blot tests.
Geshekter: These are the classic symptoms of urban crowding, of poverty, of malnutrition, and of underdevelopment which in fact affect men and women fairly equally across the African continent, however the value of Africa and this notion about heterosexual epidemic of AIDS in Africa I think was extremely important by the middle of the 1980s because it helped to shift the focus, and helped to shift media interest, to suggest that while AIDS cases initially may have been confined to a small cohort of urban gay men in the West, that what was going on in Africa was a hint of things to come, in which in fact AIDS would put everyone at risk and it would in fact become a heterosexually spread disease.
Joan Shenton, Meditel Productions, U.K.: We have had the honor of meeting many African doctors who seriously were worried that the whole of the AIDS grants was wrong, and they were not afraid to speak out, but it was very dangerous for them to do so, and they were certainly not going to receive any funding because, in Uganda for example, there were six million dollars arriving that year for sex counselling and condom distribution, and for malaria control, there were sixty five thousand dollars, so that's the whole news.
Geshekter: Once the notion got started that stopping AIDS in Africa, which was assumed to be a heterosexually transmitted set of diseases, it could be prevented or stopped by Safe Sex. Then I think early on in the going there was a considerable interest on the part of missionary and church-related aid groups who argued very strongly that monogamy and abstinence and safe sex were ways in fact to prevent the spread of this particular kind of disease. To that extent I think the WHO and the UN has found it very expedient and very practical, along political and ideological lines, to argue that the causes of these diseases in Africa, and the cure for those diseases, lies in the hands of the people themselves, rather than looking at the harder nut - the tougher nut to crack - which would be the historical and the institutional forces that make it such in Africa that many people do not have an adequate diet, few people have adequate sanitation throughout their lives, and the vast majority of people in Africa are subject to a wide range of diseases - all of which predated that of AIDS. So I think that's been a major motivating factor. You have to also understand that there's a reason on the African side to buy into this particular equation. With the end of the Cold War, Africa has found itself unable to play the superpower game - playing the United States or the Western powers off of the Soviet bloc - and so many ministries of health and many governments in general accepted that little dogma, or not get the kind of aid or assistance that the U.S. government, the United Nations, the World Health Organization and so forth felt very strongly that this is what these African governments needed.
Null: In early 2000, South African President Mbeki decided to host an AIDS conference that would give time, not only to recognize orthodox spokespersons on AIDS, but to dissenters such as Dr. Peter Duesberg. The mass media fired off numerous attacks excoriating the irresponsibility of them allowing a forum in South Africa for the people who challenge the HIV equals AIDS mindset. Members of the AIDS establishment even went to the length of earnestly calling for the prosecution of AIDS dissidents.
Neville Hodgkinson, Journalist/Researcher: When HIV positive people - children as well as adults - were given effective treatment for the conditions that they actually presented, which were things like TB or gastrointestinal infections - when they were treated for these conditions, they actually had a better life expectancy than non-HIV positive people, within the cohort study. That was because within the circumstances of these studies, they had undertaken to give medical support to people who tested positive. It was a condition on which the people allowed themselves to be tested. So given that medical support, these people have better health records than those people who have not tested HIV positive.
Geshekter: I think this drumbeat of hysteria, of panic, of alarmism, and of fear, is doing immense psychological and medical damage to many people in Africa. People who would otherwise have gone to a clinic to get treated for something like diarrhea or a persistent cough or a fever are terrified of going to a clinic, because instead of being treated for those kinds of symptoms, they're afraid that they're going to get an AIDS diagnosis which they understand to be a death sentence. When people do get just such a diagnosis based on those clinical symptoms, and they return to their villages, they return to the villages to die. They basically give up all hope. They lose the will to live. They become an outcast. They are in a culture like many African cultures in Southern Africa, where extended family is everything, to be rejected by your extended family, to be forced to live in a secluded, segregated hut, away from the rest of the family, to have only meager amounts of food, meager amounts of water given to you, is to prepare the person for death, and what do you think happens? The person dies, and when the person dies, they will say, weepingly, with atrocious photographs in the newspaper, he or she was another victim of the AIDS epidemic, which is everywhere in Africa.
Christine Johnson: If someone came along and told them there is no AIDS - all there is are the same diseases that Africans have been dying of all along, then all of a sudden millions of dollars of funding would dry up, and African are colluding with this as well. Not very many of them, but there are a few African physicians who are able to collect a lot of this money. To heads of clinics or directors of public health services and people like that, there's an awful lot of money that can come their way as long as everybody thinks that Africa is besieged with a giant AIDS epidemic.
Geshekter: The pharmaceutical giants like Roche and Abbot and Glaxo Welcome and so forth have made offers to African governments, in which I think they expect to be subsidized for this ... they've made offers to African governments over the last couple of years - particularly to South Africa - to offer these so-called anti-retrovirals, which are a controversy in and of themselves, like AZT and the other nucleoside analog drugs, but to make those drugs available at what the pharmaceutical companies would consider a cut rate price. What they mean by cut rate would be that an individual's dose would cost about $200 a month. Well, the vast majority of people in Africa don't have a per capita income of $200 a year, so someone is going to have to subsidize these kinds of drugs, making them available in Africa, and I think that the pharmaceuticals will look toward state organizations or multi-lateral institutions.
Gannett: Here it is all these years later and it baffles me that not only is AZT still being used, but they are trying to expand its usage into the third world and into Africa, into poor countries, into poor communities in the United States, in spite of widespread evidence of its toxicity, widespread evidence that AZT in fact causes what we call AIDS.
Celia Farber, Journalist: They're taking the show to the third world and they're not only giving AZT to what would probably be millions of women in the third world, whether they're HIV positive or not, but they're also insisting that they stop breast feeding and start formula feeding - supposedly in an effort to stop transmission of HIV, which of course has never been isolated from breast milk - only antibodies, and even that only 25 percent or so - pretty much like semen data - but they are launching here what is bound to be a real disaster, a real serious loss of human life.
Geshekter: Mother's milk, which pediatricians around the world will tell you is the healthiest food that a newborn can have because of the immunological properties in mother's milk ... that women should in fact cease breast-feeding their young. Now this to me seems something more than just a crime. This is absolutely diabolical and evil, and I am at least encouraged that there's been some dissension and some skepticism for a change within the bowels of the WHO - an organization that's argued very strongly for breast-feeding - is now coming to grips with maybe one of the big contradictions in the whole HIV/AIDS construct.
Farber: I can't imagine that it'll work out any other way than that you're gonna see tens, maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe even more babies dying, and they'll probably say they died of AIDS no matter what happens, so nobody will even be held accountable this time. Oh, here's the one thing they're doing, so they can demonstrate that this has nothing to do with any particular formula company making money off of this situation, they're insisting ... the WHO or UNAIDS or whoever it is is insisting that the formula gets shipped in bottles without labels.
- http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5959613277992277447&hl=en
See also:
"Deconstructing the Myth Of AIDS"
- http://www.ryze.com/posttopic.php?topicid=923888&confid=2950
.
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